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wysoft3 July 2017
I enjoyed this movie overall, with some big issues to mention.
As a vehicle for some good re-enactment and action scenes, despite the low budget, it delivered. Good depiction of German small unit tactics at the time, and a surprising amount of authentic gear, vehicles, etc. The battles are for the most part not very large, but representative of small squad to platoon-sized engagements that were common throughout the war.
There were some very noticeable low-budget CGI firing effects for most weapons, but the quality of the sound design made up for it - actually some of the best sound design I've seen in a low budget war flick. Effects for specific types of weapons are very realistic, well- mixed, and sound exactly as they would sound in an open field, small clearing, or a thick wooded forest at the base of a mountain valley
To top it off, the filming does take place in several picturesque locations.
There wasn't much character development for all but a handful of the SS soldiers, and not surprisingly the writers chose to focus on an individual soldier who was not the most gung-ho Nazi to begin with, Herckel.
Despite his obvious dislike for Jews and a belief that they were primarily responsible for Germany's problems, over the course of the war Herckel loses faith in the strength and capability of the German war machine, as his unit faces repeated defeats at the hands of the Soviets. As time goes on, he slowly learns the truth about what the Germans were doing to the Jews, and begins to struggle with the SS' treatment of POWs, and internal battles with his conscience over what he is really fighting for.
Ultimately Herckel finds that the only thing he has left to fight for (as the title implies) is his loyalty to his country and his fellow soldiers.
The narrated diatribes at the beginning and closing of the film were really unnecessary, and as others have mentioned, the narration at the film's closing seems to attempt to whitewash the atrocities of the SS and the Nazi regime, and to compare the Holocaust to allied killings of POWs (which were already primarily in retribution for the SS' no prisoner policy) and the use of atomic weapons against Japan.
Without the closing narration, it could have been a solid low-budget WWII film. With them, it borders on neo-Nazi apologetics, and one has to wonder about the political leanings of the writers and producers at that point.
Don't bother watching the English dubbing, it's terrible.
As a vehicle for some good re-enactment and action scenes, despite the low budget, it delivered. Good depiction of German small unit tactics at the time, and a surprising amount of authentic gear, vehicles, etc. The battles are for the most part not very large, but representative of small squad to platoon-sized engagements that were common throughout the war.
There were some very noticeable low-budget CGI firing effects for most weapons, but the quality of the sound design made up for it - actually some of the best sound design I've seen in a low budget war flick. Effects for specific types of weapons are very realistic, well- mixed, and sound exactly as they would sound in an open field, small clearing, or a thick wooded forest at the base of a mountain valley
To top it off, the filming does take place in several picturesque locations.
There wasn't much character development for all but a handful of the SS soldiers, and not surprisingly the writers chose to focus on an individual soldier who was not the most gung-ho Nazi to begin with, Herckel.
Despite his obvious dislike for Jews and a belief that they were primarily responsible for Germany's problems, over the course of the war Herckel loses faith in the strength and capability of the German war machine, as his unit faces repeated defeats at the hands of the Soviets. As time goes on, he slowly learns the truth about what the Germans were doing to the Jews, and begins to struggle with the SS' treatment of POWs, and internal battles with his conscience over what he is really fighting for.
Ultimately Herckel finds that the only thing he has left to fight for (as the title implies) is his loyalty to his country and his fellow soldiers.
The narrated diatribes at the beginning and closing of the film were really unnecessary, and as others have mentioned, the narration at the film's closing seems to attempt to whitewash the atrocities of the SS and the Nazi regime, and to compare the Holocaust to allied killings of POWs (which were already primarily in retribution for the SS' no prisoner policy) and the use of atomic weapons against Japan.
Without the closing narration, it could have been a solid low-budget WWII film. With them, it borders on neo-Nazi apologetics, and one has to wonder about the political leanings of the writers and producers at that point.
Don't bother watching the English dubbing, it's terrible.
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Just incomprehensibly bad, in every respectPermalink
rancor112 May 2017
The script is awful, a hodge podge of every war movie you've seen, interminable, cribbing the awful, self indulgent cap from thin red line, badly.
Worse the voice actors dubbing it are reading it like they have never read the text before and honestly, aren't very proficient readers. I kept trying to figure out who this Yevon was they were talking about, when it dawns on me, the actors don't know the word Ivan. Sigh. Awful.
Pepe is peepee. Zero stars, avoid.
Worse the voice actors dubbing it are reading it like they have never read the text before and honestly, aren't very proficient readers. I kept trying to figure out who this Yevon was they were talking about, when it dawns on me, the actors don't know the word Ivan. Sigh. Awful.
Pepe is peepee. Zero stars, avoid.
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Poorly acted, filmed, and conceived propagandist turkeyPermalink
t-dooley-69-3869167 March 2016
Warning: SpoilersFirst off any comparisons to this and the HBO made 'Band of Brothers' is about as accurate as comparing the work of Debussy to Weird Al Jankovic . It is about Untersharführer Ludwig Herckel (Leone Frisa) who leads the 1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler. Whilst doing so he bonds with some of the men in his charge. We see them on various battle fronts.
They 'fight' with some men dressed as Russians and later on some Americans. That is about it – and we have an unbelievable bit about a Jewish woman. The film is shot mostly using the shaky camera bit – we all know this is done in a vain attempt to make the on screen 'action' look better than it is. However, something does have to actually happen on screen for any maintenance of the pretence of action to be even in the foothills of believable. The uniforms are mostly OK, and some of the weapons looked good. The acting is pitiful in places and when people die they have to have watered down tomato ketchup spread across their mouths.
The 'battles' are a bit am dram and clearly done be re enactors but despite putting up the names of different locations on the screen it is a bit obvious that they are fighting in the same field with the same armour etc. Also CGI planes that fly impossibly low, muzzle flashes and smoke that are photo shopped on – the list is quite long.
Then to add insult to injury it gets all preachy about both sides being guilty of crimes at the end but the Nazis are only blamed because we had the temerity to win – to the victor the spoils etc. The film starts out by saying it is non political and then goes out of its way to be apologist propaganda for Hitler fans. I should have known that this was a turkey when the film starts with a quote from an undoubted 'wise philosopher' who I could not quite place in the pantheon of 'the great thinkers'. It was Alessandro Pepe who wrote, directed and edited this lame piece of cinematic garbage. Anyone who tries to justify the Holocaust really should be taken to task – I feel dirty having watched it.
They 'fight' with some men dressed as Russians and later on some Americans. That is about it – and we have an unbelievable bit about a Jewish woman. The film is shot mostly using the shaky camera bit – we all know this is done in a vain attempt to make the on screen 'action' look better than it is. However, something does have to actually happen on screen for any maintenance of the pretence of action to be even in the foothills of believable. The uniforms are mostly OK, and some of the weapons looked good. The acting is pitiful in places and when people die they have to have watered down tomato ketchup spread across their mouths.
The 'battles' are a bit am dram and clearly done be re enactors but despite putting up the names of different locations on the screen it is a bit obvious that they are fighting in the same field with the same armour etc. Also CGI planes that fly impossibly low, muzzle flashes and smoke that are photo shopped on – the list is quite long.
Then to add insult to injury it gets all preachy about both sides being guilty of crimes at the end but the Nazis are only blamed because we had the temerity to win – to the victor the spoils etc. The film starts out by saying it is non political and then goes out of its way to be apologist propaganda for Hitler fans. I should have known that this was a turkey when the film starts with a quote from an undoubted 'wise philosopher' who I could not quite place in the pantheon of 'the great thinkers'. It was Alessandro Pepe who wrote, directed and edited this lame piece of cinematic garbage. Anyone who tries to justify the Holocaust really should be taken to task – I feel dirty having watched it.
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Terrible Movie - AvoidPermalink
james-203-4295108 March 2017
I am sorry, but this was rubbish. The opening narrative pretty much sums up this discursive, poorly written, sloppy movie. It is, however, reenactor porn. It is the kind of poorly made movie amateurs post on Youtube, akin to fan films. Morally, it is bankrupt: it gives tacit endorsement for the actions of the SS and tries to argue it away as simply the tumult of war. Battle scenes look ridiculous because they plainly could not afford blank rounds... the explosions that did seem real seem to be more like fireworks than actual explosive devices. Netflix is currently playing it... I've got no idea why. It's terrible. Straight out.
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Watched the first 10 minutes and just couldn't take any more...Permalink
finn-6448629 April 2017
Watched the first 10 minutes and just couldn't take any more, and had to stop. The movie started out with the worst 'fight scene' that I have ever experienced. Acting is horrible and so are the sound tracks (tried them in both German and English). My guess is that this is the project of a first year student in a film school - at least this would explain it...
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a non gifted apprenticePermalink
garciamd-1798622 May 2017
This director 'Pepe' made just this movie, and that's enough to ask him to stop making films. the is no story at all, actors perform very bad, war scenes are cheesy, infantile, and the starting speech is just ridiculous (who wrote? Coelho?) rigid language, bored dialogues. in the pre WWII era Rifensthal made 'triumph of the will' this a lean imitation, the work of a mediocre apprentice.
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The clumsy red linePermalink
Ladiloque21 March 2017
In recent times while most movies include various 'points' to be made, nearly all of them are produced to 'entertain' a target audience and make money. Reviews are meant to give potential viewers some hints on what to expect.
Very few films are instead produced with the prime objective of stating a position: being it an artistic or ethical-socio-political POV. Our opinion that - demos and educational content aside - a movie isn't the best medium for such 'statements' is generally ignored and, as such, irrelevant: symbolic engagement is still more effective than reasoning and thus a well designed movie is more persuasive than a logic text. Regarding these films - as far as we are concerned - reviews are someway as interesting as watching the film itself because serious reviews virtually become part of a discussion. And some discussions easily heat-up...
Here we have such a film; one - unfortunately - where the author naively uses complex concepts like truth, reality, history, nature (just to name a few) and aims at being a-political while dealing with the most influential event of our world: 2nd world war.
The result? Talking about Malick's 'The thin red line' isn't casual: the parallel is obvious, deliberate and merciless. While Malick let soldiers share with few words their relationship with life, love, war, etc... here we have a lot of preachy-poetic voice-overs from the protagonist (a supposedly simple-minded soldier) and even an out-of-context female lecturing us with 'godly wisdom'. The outcome is that while in Malick's film I could feel moved by the soldiers' perspectives and engaged by their aesthetic-philosophic value, here I feel like someone is trying to sell me a not-so-subtle brainwashing into Pepe's simplistic world-view.
Let's not even dig about the technical proficiency: sub par is the first word coming to our mind.
In the end the bravery required to commit into a project like this (which would like to go way further than any WW2 tale of good VS evil) should be paired with a deeper understanding of what you're doing. Mr Pepe, if you want to change people's perspective or at least enlarge it, being a preachy commercial marketer doesn't work anymore. Get a serious culture (Malick studied his whole life, you have likely just taken a semester of contemporary history) and write a serious book. Otherwise, humbly, forget about 'Art' and Malick and just seek to entertain.
Very few films are instead produced with the prime objective of stating a position: being it an artistic or ethical-socio-political POV. Our opinion that - demos and educational content aside - a movie isn't the best medium for such 'statements' is generally ignored and, as such, irrelevant: symbolic engagement is still more effective than reasoning and thus a well designed movie is more persuasive than a logic text. Regarding these films - as far as we are concerned - reviews are someway as interesting as watching the film itself because serious reviews virtually become part of a discussion. And some discussions easily heat-up...
Here we have such a film; one - unfortunately - where the author naively uses complex concepts like truth, reality, history, nature (just to name a few) and aims at being a-political while dealing with the most influential event of our world: 2nd world war.
The result? Talking about Malick's 'The thin red line' isn't casual: the parallel is obvious, deliberate and merciless. While Malick let soldiers share with few words their relationship with life, love, war, etc... here we have a lot of preachy-poetic voice-overs from the protagonist (a supposedly simple-minded soldier) and even an out-of-context female lecturing us with 'godly wisdom'. The outcome is that while in Malick's film I could feel moved by the soldiers' perspectives and engaged by their aesthetic-philosophic value, here I feel like someone is trying to sell me a not-so-subtle brainwashing into Pepe's simplistic world-view.
Let's not even dig about the technical proficiency: sub par is the first word coming to our mind.
In the end the bravery required to commit into a project like this (which would like to go way further than any WW2 tale of good VS evil) should be paired with a deeper understanding of what you're doing. Mr Pepe, if you want to change people's perspective or at least enlarge it, being a preachy commercial marketer doesn't work anymore. Get a serious culture (Malick studied his whole life, you have likely just taken a semester of contemporary history) and write a serious book. Otherwise, humbly, forget about 'Art' and Malick and just seek to entertain.
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GarbagePermalink
jeremylinville27 April 2017
Warning: SpoilersNazi apologist trash. Pretty rich to say they were fighting for their country while standing in France or Stalingrad. There is no portrayal of the Nazi death camps, or any real hint of the ethnic cleansing going on in Eastern Europe. I'm glad this movie is out there to remind me that there are still people who think like this and need to be fought against.
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Want to see this movie? Grab a mobile phone and you can make your own!Permalink
hughesjack-1737313 April 2017
Several mistakes such as the Hetzer 38t which wasn't in service till 44. Looks like it was filimed with a mobile while the person filming on their phone was being pelted with stones by the 'Evan' not 'Ivan' soldiers. In other news, it has been discovered recently that American re-enacters accidentally used live ammunition. Several people were executed by mistake. Oh well?
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WatchablePermalink
allanradman30 June 2017
Warning: SpoilersDespite other, accurate reviews on this board, I found the film watchable until the very end when I was to believe that a group of SS soldiers were just there to defend their homeland from being invaded by others. Really? If the average SS was only their to protect their homeland from the hordes, then they should have stayed home from 1933 on-wards. The Great Depression of 1929 was bad for everyone, not just the Germans. The German economy was built from the backs of slave labor and stolen lands and wealth from other neighbors of Europe. They took no pity on the Russian civilian nor his village or city. Nor did they have a micro-gram of mercy on many of their own people. And the SS more or less got away with it because of the cold war that followed. We know that most Germans were peaceful people and were led by the devil at that time. And that the victors do write the history. However, the German soldier, particularly the sadistic SS, took a personal oath to the devil himself. And if one did not recognize that after all the murdering then he should suffer the consequences. At the very end, the gull of the writer to have his female 'victim' move to the United States after laying all the war guilt on others made me want to puke. Someone should slap the writer(s).
I give the film a 5/10 because it is somewhat watchable despite the valid criticisms of others. I did not expect Saving Private Ryan and really had no expectations before watching this on Netflix.
I give the film a 5/10 because it is somewhat watchable despite the valid criticisms of others. I did not expect Saving Private Ryan and really had no expectations before watching this on Netflix.
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Bad in every wayPermalink
sadak759930 June 2017
This movie is poor. Poor acting, awful special effects, wrong in every way. Maybe contains the worst combat scenes of modern cinema. Looks like the project of an amateur and his friends for YouTube (and not the best one) The movie is so bad that doesn't worth to add anymore. Just avoid it.
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This Movie is Dangerous PropagandaPermalink
platypus-5966218 March 2017
Yes- all sides commit terrible crimes during war. This is no reason to glorify or try to justify the actions of the SS during World War II. This movie glorifies the SS and justifies their actions with the 'everybody did it' mentality. All sides committed atrocities but the SS involvement and perpetration of the holocaust cannot be justified. The actions of the SS were far from a-political as this movie would have you believe. I agree that a movie portraying the (actual) viewpoint of an SS soldier during World War II would be interesting however this movie uses a fictitious SS soldier to further an agenda that absolves SS units of their heinous crimes. This viewer will not forgive or forget. This movie ignores historical reality and I feel dirty for having watched this filth.
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PC treatment of the SSPermalink
kcrenegade110 March 2017
Warning: SpoilersThis movie must have been put out by the families of SS veterans. The movie is a case of liberal PC cancer reaching its height where anything is OK because of feelings. This movie puts a PC spin on SS service.
The movie covers the war from 43 on in a squad within the SS 1st Division, the Leiberstant division. The movie totally forgets how the SS came about. It paints them as average soldiers. I think any average person wouldn't believe that. It forgets the fact that this division was Hitler's favorite. The unit came from Hitler's personal body guard. These people were the most extreme of Germany's extreme bad guys. The movie forgets the racial motivation of the SS. I found it hilarious in how they shot prisoners hesitantly. The move shows US soldiers shooting SS soldier but it ignores Malmendy where the SS shot scores of Americans. The movie only touches on the death camps in passing. It forgets the horrors of the holocaust and the 50 million who died from the second German caused world war.
PC cancers like this movie pose a grave threat to our nation. It lets people forget evil for evils sake out of fear it will offend someone. Then that leads to an environment where that evil can come back again.
The movie covers the war from 43 on in a squad within the SS 1st Division, the Leiberstant division. The movie totally forgets how the SS came about. It paints them as average soldiers. I think any average person wouldn't believe that. It forgets the fact that this division was Hitler's favorite. The unit came from Hitler's personal body guard. These people were the most extreme of Germany's extreme bad guys. The movie forgets the racial motivation of the SS. I found it hilarious in how they shot prisoners hesitantly. The move shows US soldiers shooting SS soldier but it ignores Malmendy where the SS shot scores of Americans. The movie only touches on the death camps in passing. It forgets the horrors of the holocaust and the 50 million who died from the second German caused world war.
PC cancers like this movie pose a grave threat to our nation. It lets people forget evil for evils sake out of fear it will offend someone. Then that leads to an environment where that evil can come back again.
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First year film student projectPermalink
cheesycheesebourne-230-79400520 April 2017
It seems like a first year film student had access to a re-enactment club and combined this with a juvenile script and inexperienced, (perhaps no experience), acting. To start with the story attempting to convey that 'the winners write history' and the SS were not a bad bunch of chaps is moronic bordering on dangerous; at a minimum naive. Perhaps through the war there were examples of individual soldiers, perhaps conscripts, that questioned their actions, however the SS at it's fundamentals was an ideologically aligned organization that believed their race was superior to other sub-human races, and treated them accordingly. There is no argument about this in Nazi ideology, from either side German or otherwise. Hitler outlined this himself in his own book Mein Kampf, and the SS were the engine behind Hitler's vision. Attempting to whitewash this at the level this film does is irresponsible. Anyway, after seeing the level of acting it is not too surprising that the script, acting, and film-making reach about the same level of maturity and depth.
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Apologist crap!Permalink
bushforprez17 April 2017
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God awful. Loyalty to a National cause that believes in the gassing of innocent civilians, the bashing baby skulls against a wall, rape and murder of another countries females, is the O P P O S I T E of honorable.
The both sides did it crap makes one feel dirty just listening to it. There is good and bad in the world. Good is crossing an ocean to fight against a enemy and country that was gassing to death Jews, Gypsies, POW's on an industrial scale. Good is fighting to liberate your own country from the same murderous atrocities being committed by an enemy army. Evil is the soldier who defends those murderous atrocities, either directly, or by allowing the regime to survive.
One of the last lines was a trite comment about how there was no difference between Hiroshima, and what the Nazi's did. Einstien asked FDR to develop the 'bomb' because he knew what the Nazi's would do. We can all thank God that the Nazi's never developed the Atomic bomb. And it's too bad that it was not developed in time to drop on Berlin and wipe out Hitler and his pals. Think of how many millions of people would have been saved from the Holocaust if we had had the chance to nuke those evil MFers.
The both sides did it crap makes one feel dirty just listening to it. There is good and bad in the world. Good is crossing an ocean to fight against a enemy and country that was gassing to death Jews, Gypsies, POW's on an industrial scale. Good is fighting to liberate your own country from the same murderous atrocities being committed by an enemy army. Evil is the soldier who defends those murderous atrocities, either directly, or by allowing the regime to survive.
One of the last lines was a trite comment about how there was no difference between Hiroshima, and what the Nazi's did. Einstien asked FDR to develop the 'bomb' because he knew what the Nazi's would do. We can all thank God that the Nazi's never developed the Atomic bomb. And it's too bad that it was not developed in time to drop on Berlin and wipe out Hitler and his pals. Think of how many millions of people would have been saved from the Holocaust if we had had the chance to nuke those evil MFers.
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dangerous revisionist claptrapPermalink
craigalexander-312503 April 2017
To make a waffen SS soldier conflicted about treatment of Jews is pure fantasy. Volunteers to Hitlers special division were dedicated fanatics who believed in Hitler to the extreme. Adolf spewed hate for over a decade and mobilized a fan base of willing participants in mass murder. That's it. Pure and simple. Maybe some regular wehrmacht soldiers had some misgivings and personal doubts. Not these guys. These were evil murderous jackboot thugs.
This hate crime author of this shoddy film has no grasp on historical reality which is demonstrated by putting Normandy battle in 1943. But the real danger is diminishing the shocking atrocity that was the massive German killing machine. The piles of corpses stacked at the death camps can not be refuted. But let's rewrite history with an SS soldier with a heart. The SS were the worst of the worst. The most extreme of the extremists, and committed war crimes more than any part of the German war machine. They were also highly effective because they were fanatics. That's not a good thing. Showing Americans murder prisoners is just inaccurate. A prisoner is worth something. They can be interrogated, and have value. After the Malmady massacre at Battle of Bulge SS soldiers may have been given no quarter, but that would have been a reaction to just another of the latest in a long line of crimes perpetrated by the diabolical SS. The final act of SS survivors was to shed their uniforms and blend in. They knew they were guilty. Too bad the filmmaker does not in this sickening revisionist apology.
This hate crime author of this shoddy film has no grasp on historical reality which is demonstrated by putting Normandy battle in 1943. But the real danger is diminishing the shocking atrocity that was the massive German killing machine. The piles of corpses stacked at the death camps can not be refuted. But let's rewrite history with an SS soldier with a heart. The SS were the worst of the worst. The most extreme of the extremists, and committed war crimes more than any part of the German war machine. They were also highly effective because they were fanatics. That's not a good thing. Showing Americans murder prisoners is just inaccurate. A prisoner is worth something. They can be interrogated, and have value. After the Malmady massacre at Battle of Bulge SS soldiers may have been given no quarter, but that would have been a reaction to just another of the latest in a long line of crimes perpetrated by the diabolical SS. The final act of SS survivors was to shed their uniforms and blend in. They knew they were guilty. Too bad the filmmaker does not in this sickening revisionist apology.
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The tale of good SS- mannPermalink
You could easily call that. If I take my knowledge about history from that movie I would think the only ones who commit war crimes was Russians and mostly - Americans. Movie completely skipped fact that 1st SS division has certain history of killing unarmed captured soldiers - at one time 4000 Russian prisoners was killed by them on place, on other occasion 80 British prisoners ( of course not in the movie). Every SS unit carried out multiple executions on civilians, when You watch this German propaganda view how SS mans from 1st Adolf Hitler division was brave and kind , just remember 6 millions of people was killed in just six year in Poland , mostly by SS. Not counting Russian casulties. Its worth watching only when You remember what SS did , and that this is totally one sided try of picturing all sides as equal. While 17 millions of Germans supported Hitler's NSDAP, 9 millions had NSDAP membership.And that their war crimes and mass murders in Death Camps - where also brave SS- mans served - was second to nothing in history of that planet.
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Unmitigated rot.Permalink
wubbs-5232428 July 2017
What a joke of a movie. Poor production, the most apologist German thing I've ever seen. I am a student of WWII. The atrocities committed by the Germans in Russia are glossed over in the guise of one man losing his faith in ultimate victory. Its all patriotic nonsense when the principles knew they were losing, and they knew why. Highlights are American atrocities when their group is transferred to the west. A few of those certainly happened, but comical compared to German activity in the east. There's just nothing good to say about this film.
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Shocking apologia for Nazi war crimes. Who made this film???Permalink
byrdxx3 June 2017
The premise of this film is that Allied murder of captured SS men in the field is equivalent to the mass murder of ten million civilians by the German war machine -- civilians most of whom were not caught in the field of combat. For good measure, the dropping of the atom bombs is also brought in to heighten the equivalence -- as if millions more Japanese civilians would not have died in an invasion aimed at dislodging a murderous regime that killed thirty or forty million Chines, Koreans and others outside the theater of combat. The message is that the SS are to admired for fighting for their country, as though that is a virtue in and of itself, regardless of the circumstances and the country they were fighting for.
It is astounding that this revisionist tripe was made, much less that it received theatrical release.
Not to mention that the film is badly, mawkishly, tritely made, poorly shot and indifferently acted.
It is astounding that this revisionist tripe was made, much less that it received theatrical release.
Not to mention that the film is badly, mawkishly, tritely made, poorly shot and indifferently acted.
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A soldiers story. So treat it as suchPermalink
ian-corner10 March 2018
Obvious this film does not have the budget of the Hollywood blockbusters but then that is not what you should watch this film for. It is amaturish but l feel that added somehow to the story. If you cannot take amature movies do not watch it,
It is about a soldier in the Waffen SS and his story but with a twist at the end. If you can become the soldier and feel the story, then the movie is a good watch. It does leave you thinking. Hard to say more without a spoiler.
Lastly, the voice overs could have been a lot better also but just grin and use your imagination. If you have no imagination and need everything fed to you, then watch Saving Private Ryan or something similar...
It is about a soldier in the Waffen SS and his story but with a twist at the end. If you can become the soldier and feel the story, then the movie is a good watch. It does leave you thinking. Hard to say more without a spoiler.
Lastly, the voice overs could have been a lot better also but just grin and use your imagination. If you have no imagination and need everything fed to you, then watch Saving Private Ryan or something similar...
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Poorly executed movie that fails to make use of the materialPermalink
While making a movie on a shoestring is a challenge, bad decisions have been made to make this movie bad. For instance, we are served poorly executed battles that are obviously located in the same area that has to represent Russia in 1943 and Normandy in 1944. These battles just look downright fake. Coupled with this is the poor acting, marred by dubbing, the poorly cinematography(shaky handy cams!) the endless boring battles scenes and finally the borrowing from the thin red line.(long intro, voice overs, chaotic battle scenes, a lot of pondering and thinking).
The movie is presented as the story of a regular guy serving in the SS. It is literally announced at the start of the movie. However, the movie plays this fiddle a bit too much. For example: at one moment the subject is raised why the men joined the SS and it is presented as if they just wanted to do their duty. But the SS was not just some regular army unit. The SS were selected men, all volunteers, who adhered to a certain ideology and are noted for a long list of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Notably, the unit in this movie, the 1st SS, was notorious for this.
While the subject could have been interesting, the movie does not make much use of it. Where moral ambiguity would have been interesting, this is downplayed and only brought up at the end of the movie and the cloaked in a kind of apologetic by showing that the allies were bad as well. It would have been a much better movie if it had shown the SS as they were, brave perhaps, but brutish as well, and so perhaps explain how they could do the things they did. Now we just get to see what we have already seen before. A soldier getting tired of war and disillusioned. That we have seen before and seen done a lot better.
The movie is presented as the story of a regular guy serving in the SS. It is literally announced at the start of the movie. However, the movie plays this fiddle a bit too much. For example: at one moment the subject is raised why the men joined the SS and it is presented as if they just wanted to do their duty. But the SS was not just some regular army unit. The SS were selected men, all volunteers, who adhered to a certain ideology and are noted for a long list of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Notably, the unit in this movie, the 1st SS, was notorious for this.
While the subject could have been interesting, the movie does not make much use of it. Where moral ambiguity would have been interesting, this is downplayed and only brought up at the end of the movie and the cloaked in a kind of apologetic by showing that the allies were bad as well. It would have been a much better movie if it had shown the SS as they were, brave perhaps, but brutish as well, and so perhaps explain how they could do the things they did. Now we just get to see what we have already seen before. A soldier getting tired of war and disillusioned. That we have seen before and seen done a lot better.
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isn't it against the law to glorify SS in the USA?Permalink
Netflix should be responsible for spreading fascist propaganda. It is a shame that Netfix dares showing a movie that glorifies SS murderers! Acting is terrible. Storyline - boring. Dialogs - artificial. Scenenery - repetitive. This poorly directed, low budget movie is solely created to show that SS murderers were honest , innocent soldiers.Shame on you! Why FBI did not stop its distribution ?
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Good representation of everyday people in a garbage warPermalink
musattac13 June 2017
More of a 8 or 9 but I rated it a 10 to counter balance the uber PC voters.
It seems that a lot of reviewers have a hard time with this movie because it doesn't have a clear cut good vs. bad story. Sorry, if that is what you were looking for, watch Star Wars. Good vs. Bad only truly exists in the fictional world.
Most soldiers from the various armies were simply doing their best to survive. All sides committed horrendous atrocities and that is what this movie tries to get across to its audience. If you don't agree, do a google search for the 'bombing of Dresden', 'Rape of Nanking', 'Bombing of Nagasaki', etc.... There are no good guys
That said, I started this movie expecting to waste a couple of hours on another stupid war flick. About 20 minutes into the movie, I was sure I was wasting my time. But slowly the movie drew me in making it clear how the soldiers on the front felt. Depression, hopelessness and loneliness. The director is able to turn your emotions if you give him time.
In addition, the uniforms, equipment and historical timeline were are accurate which isn't common in most war movies anymore.
Both depressing and worth watching.
It seems that a lot of reviewers have a hard time with this movie because it doesn't have a clear cut good vs. bad story. Sorry, if that is what you were looking for, watch Star Wars. Good vs. Bad only truly exists in the fictional world.
Most soldiers from the various armies were simply doing their best to survive. All sides committed horrendous atrocities and that is what this movie tries to get across to its audience. If you don't agree, do a google search for the 'bombing of Dresden', 'Rape of Nanking', 'Bombing of Nagasaki', etc.... There are no good guys
That said, I started this movie expecting to waste a couple of hours on another stupid war flick. About 20 minutes into the movie, I was sure I was wasting my time. But slowly the movie drew me in making it clear how the soldiers on the front felt. Depression, hopelessness and loneliness. The director is able to turn your emotions if you give him time.
In addition, the uniforms, equipment and historical timeline were are accurate which isn't common in most war movies anymore.
Both depressing and worth watching.
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I checked other reviews and they are fake accountsPermalink
rpj-3152228 July 2017
I vote this 10 because of the fake negative reviewers that have only been created to mark this film down. Few if any of these reviews talk about the movie itself, they just tell you that it's propaganda and that you should not watch it which is precisely the reason why you should. It's very low budget, yes, but the story seems to be built up from real letters written by real soldiers which gives you an idea of these people's beliefs and worldview and perhaps provides some insight into how they got so caught up in the idea that the Nazis presented at that time and how that worldview effected their flight or fight responses on the battlefield. It also expresses their doubts about what they where fighting for and their journey from idealism to cynicism. It's a breath of fresh air and goes some way to redraw a balance since as we know history is written by the winners and we rarely hear the other side of the story.
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A viewpoint of WW2 from a German Sgt. and his questioning of his own beliefs as the war progresses.Permalink
rea-752379 March 2017
This movie is like a stage play and you'll have to use your imagination to look past the poorly staged scenarios. One must look past the stigmas of the Nazi regime to see the clearer picture of a man forced at first by patriotism and later by the camaraderie of his fellow soldiers and in the end, his fear for those he loves and the protection of his country...with no politics involved. It is sad because he is no different than any other common man in any other country that is forced to fight for causes that he truly does not know or understand. It is not, as others would say, any sort of glorification of the SS. The majority of soldiers are no more than pawns on the chessboard of war. It also points to the futility and waste of war.
It is not a big budget movie but it does make its' points if given a chance. At first I thought it quite cheesy, but as I continued to watch, I began to understand what the producer/director was trying to say. In the end I liked it.
It is not a big budget movie but it does make its' points if given a chance. At first I thought it quite cheesy, but as I continued to watch, I began to understand what the producer/director was trying to say. In the end I liked it.
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SS belt buckle featuring the motto Meine Ehre heißt Treue.
Meine Ehre heißt Treue (pronounced [ˌmaɪnə ˈʔeːʁə haɪst ˈtʁɔʏə]; 'My honour is called loyalty') is the motto of the former National Socialist organization, the Schutzstaffel (SS).
Origin[edit]
In a National Socialist context, the phrase Meine Ehre heißt Treue refers to a declaration by Adolf Hitler following the Stennes Revolt, an incident between the Berlin Sturmabteilung (SA) and the SS. In early April 1931, elements of the SA under Walter Stennes attempted to overthrow the head of the Berlin section of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. As the section chief Joseph Goebbels fled with his staff, a handful of SS men led by Kurt Daluege were beaten trying to repel the SA. After the incident, Hitler wrote a letter of congratulations to Daluege, stating ... SS-Mann, deine Ehre heißt Treue! ('Man of the SS, your honour is loyalty'). Soon afterward, Reichsführer-SSHeinrich Himmler, adopted the modified version of this phrase as the official motto of the organisation.
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Ordnance dagger of the SS (Collection Paul Regnier, Lausanne). The motto Meine Ehre heißt Treue is inscribed on the blade.
Terms related to virtue, such as 'honour', 'fidelity', 'comradeship' or 'obedience' were abundantly used by the SS. The word 'fidelity', used alone, was often a reference to Hitler personally, as in the pledge of allegiance of the SS:
We swear to you, Adolf Hitler, (...) fidelity and bravery. We solemnly pledge obedience to the death to you, and to those named by you as leaders (...)[1]
The notion of fidelity did thus not refer to an ideal or an ethic, but to Hitler personally and his delegates, in line with the Führerprinzip of National Socialist ideology; 'fidelity' was to be understood as absolute obedience.
The identification of 'fidelity' with 'honour' entailed, in the negative, the loss of honour by disobeying orders. Hence, 'honour' lost its traditional meaning: honour in disobeying illegal and criminal orders became an oxymoron, as only a blind obedience was deemed honourable. In the ethos of the SS, the refusal to commit crimes ordered by a leader constituted a dishonourable deed. This nazification of vocabulary was aimed at obtaining the sort of unconditional obedience that law could not provide, as it required a pledge to traditional ideals of chivalrous virtue.[2]
Since 1947, the use of this motto or variations thereof has been prohibited in a number of countries, notably Austria and Germany, in their laws pertaining to the use of symbols of anti-constitutional organizations, e.g. in Germany, Strafgesetzbuch 86a. Nonetheless it is still used by extreme-right organisations[3][4].
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- ^...Wir schwören Dir, Adolf Hitler (...) Treue und Tapferkeit. Wir geloben Dir und den von Dir bestimmten Vorgesetzten Gehorsam bis in den Tod...[CITATION NEEDED]
- ^Bernd Wegner, Hitlers politische Soldaten ('Tugendideale der SS')
- ^Fröhlich, Claudia; Heinrich, Horst-Alfred (2004). Geschichtspolitik: wer sind ihre Akteure, wer ihre Rezipienten? (in German). Franz Steiner Verlag. ISBN9783515082464.
- ^''Deutschland den Deutschen' - Gedanken und Fakten zu Fremdenfeindlichkeit und Rassismus in der Fußballfanszene'(PDF).
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